but, greta, you can only go so far. if a candidate is pushed into being a certain way, obama-like, for example, or reagan-like, you can see that. if it does not work, the candidate is very, very uncomfortable. one of the reasons mr. clegg it did so well in the first debate was that he was very comfortable in his own skin to things that people said about barack obama even way back, that he seemed comfortable in his own skin. sometimes you could see the advisers handiwork. the second time you did not see it as much. maybe it was internalized by that time and they were able to be their own demand. people can see through that. host: what about gordon brown's performance and his comfort in that? guest: he is the older of the two, he is solid, he knows the policy issues. he is a little bit uncomfortable, for obvious reasons. there was a bit of the knicks in a radio factory those who would hear gordon brown -- there was a bit of the nixon radio effect. those who would hear gordon brown might think better of him . he also chose